Interesting how people pick and choose which parts of the Bible to follow. According to the Bible, y'all shouldn't be chowing down on that good SC barbecue because God says not to eat pork. According to the Bible, it's OK for a man to hit his wife. According to the Bible, it's OK to kill or hurt someone for revenge. How about letting go of following the Bible so strictly and latching on to treating people with love, respect and kindness. We might not be able to agree on what God would or wouldn't approve of, but I think we can agree He'd approve of a little human kindness.

Posted by on 9/3/2008

to "seriously" I understand where you are coming from and hope you really understand me, even if you pretend not to. Since you said that the last post was going to be your last response this will be mine. It is obvious from your referance to sinning and your attitude that you probably enjoy a lifestyle that is not biblical. While I do not agree with this I do not insult or even object to what you do. Your salvation is in your hands. All I am saying is that I will not support any legislation that directly or indirectly promotes homosexuality. I believe that I am not alone and that gay marriage will not become law in this state. Again you compare what I write to the kkk. You and I both know that is not a fair analogy and I never said ANYTHING out of racism or hate. You compare Americas moral compass to that of sexual deviants and criminals of every sort. The moral compass that I was referring to is the compass that has fed the homeless, promoted civil rights and stood up for human rights all over the world. You can slander my way of life and my perspective all you want and compare me to who you will, it will not hide the fact that you are wrong and you know it. You do whatever floats your boat and try to legalize whatever you want, it will not pass and God will be your judge. Not me. As for the "bringing a knife to a gun fight" I dont have to, I will bring a vote to a booth. Along with enough other voters to see Biblical laws pass.

Posted by LOL on 8/28/2008

hey guys (Mike & LOL)....this will be my last response as I am not trying to persuade you to change your opinion. As I have said in previous post you are entitled to your opinion, just as everyone else is. Mike...i was in no way trying to attack you, I apologize if you took it that way. When you called Obama's former pastor a bigoted hatemonger. You were that attacked him by calling him names and LOL attacked me by calling me a crackpot liberal(which i'm not by the way...i have voted republican several times as i mentioned before). I simply provided the definition of the word bigot so that someday you might understand that even though you may be in the majority when it comes to religious denomination, a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions(ie. beliefs/religion)and prejudices; or one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group, or in this case those with a different sexual preference)with hatred and intolerance is considered a bigot. Call that an attack if you want, it is what it is. As far as the KKK reference, that actually comes from their website. I was trying to make the point that those who make hatred and bigotry part of their lifestyle often hide behind the cloak of Christianity. Just like the "God Hates Fags" people. I'm sure you guys have heard of these people, right...they stand outside of the funerals, weddings, etc of homosexual people and hold up signs that say "God Hates Fags"... Mike, you are obviously an intelligent guy. I feel sure that you understand that every sin that goes on in the world does not equate to your children, your peers, your church, thinking that you believe it is ok. If you want to know what I believe, I believe that all men are created equal...period. I don't have a problem with prayers in school, ballgames, dollar bills, One Nation Under God, etc because I was brought up as a Methodist. I don't vote for someone because of their party affiliation. I vote for who I believe is the best for the job. I do not believe that religion, be it Christianity, Judism, Budhism, Scientolgy or whatever should NOT be a factor when making the laws for this country. Because if that is the case eventually someone is left out. Someone is always left out. Everybody's religion CAN'T be right. But everybody believes in them just as strongly as you do. As long as there has been organized religion there has been conflict over it. Some conflicts as small as our debates and others big as 9/11 and the War in Iraq. People have been fighting over their beliefs well before the birth of Christ. The only way to make a fair system in my opinion is to give everyone equal opportunity...I just don't feel that any religion does that including mine. As I got old enough to listen to the preacher and understand what he was actually saying I started to realize...Hey, there is an agenda here! At that particular time it was video poker in SC. And how we needed to get rid of them because it was causing people to sin....the Christian majority voted and sure enough they were gone. Was it the poker machine that was making these men go astray?...I don't think so...I feel that it the men themselves...all they needed was an apple to bite...and they bit it....is it possible to hide all the apples in the world...i don't think so. Listen guys...I'm from the south...I've lived in the south all my life...lived in Georgetown all my life...I understand the way certain people operate. I've seen "self proclaimed christians throwing back cold beers as well as using the "N" word with out blinking an eye. Which leads one to believe that its ok to be prejudice in some shape fashion or form as long you are a Christian....and I personally don't subscribe to that notion and if you don't afford all people the same rights then they are being discriminated against. And LOL if you don't have the vocabulary to write down what you want to say on this post without it being removed...I'm not quite sure why I'm even addressing you, but I will. You said "Our Morals are being slowly eroded by left wing crackpots (like yourself)"...this is called an attack and FYI I haven't removed anything from your school. You say you do not hate Gay people and "I know several and I pray for them daily. I am taught to love the sinner but hate the sin." I have two questions, well maybe three: 1.Is being gay the sin, or is gay marriage? 2.Are you aware that you just said that you love gay people? and 3. Did you realize that you capitalized "G" in Gay as would would "G" in God?...Freudian slip perhaps?...in this particular instance gay is an adjective not a proper noun. You also said "Allowing Gay marriage will further remove our youth from the Biblical compass that has guided America since its beginning." You mean the same way that some Catholic preist have guided confused boys, or televangelist have had sex scandals with the girl from Sam Kinneson's wild thing video, or may be the moral compass that leads to the Morman compounds out west that have several wives along with marring each others children? That moral compass? If it's ok with you, I'll just get a map from the store. And last but not least you write..."This is a Christian based country and it will remain that way. If you dont like it, LEAVE." I will refer you back to the KKK website..and its goals..it reads as follows: The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation/ We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people....MMMMMM...if i don't like living under white Christian rules...i should leave....where have i heard that before....LOL don't bring a knife to gunfight my friend....I'll chat with all you cats at some other time...It's been fun.....you guys pray for me....i got some sinning to do!!!!WoooHoooo!!!!

Posted by seriously on 8/28/2008

"anthony" I can't quite understand your point. I think you are saying that you don't agree with gay marriage just like I dont but would you clarify your "two straight lines can't bend" point? Furthermore where you responding to me or someone else? I am not trying to be funny or sarcastic I just wanted to see where you were coming from.

Posted by LOL on 8/27/2008

with that u said in this post it's obvious that u don't understand --there is a woman for every man and the same for man---can u show me and everyone who interpret this ungodly thought where in the universe that the Almighty has set his or her blessings on same sex marriage--that is a man made law--not to mention where this world is going with that insane way of thinking---wake up--and don't be ashame to speak your mind that's the problem with this world--we have a God given right to express our thought--but to acknowledge that two straight lines can curve is insane--- +

Posted by anthony on 8/27/2008

to "Coastal observer fan" So we are "bigots" if we don't want our children growing up and thinking Gay marriage is ok? I think that the only closed minded person here is you. You think that just because you believe it is ok it should be law. The majority votes and until the majority is not Christian we will have the laws that reflect our beliefs. Mr. Callahan is doing a fine job.

Posted by LOL on 8/24/2008

"seriously" We live in a free society where our elected officils vote for laws. Since the majority of this nation is Christian we WILL get the laws to reflect our views and choices. If some gay pride judges see it otherwise sooner or later we will have some put in place that do the right thing. As for your attacks on Mr. Goude, I can't say what I want because this post would be removed. I will say this, I believe that you personify what is going wrong in this country. Our Morals are being slowly eroded by left wing crackpots (like yourself) and people like you have removed prayer from our school. Look at the results! I do not hate Gay people. I know several and I pray for them daily. I am taught to love the sinner but hate the sin. Allowing Gay marriage will further remove our youth from the Biblical compass that has guided America since its beginning. It will also show that our lawmakers do not agree with the Bible, and that we as Americans are just slipping further away from God and closer to destruction. Marriage is between MAN and WOMAN and will remain so in this state. If you need to "pursue happiness" with a same sex marriage please do so in another state. Or better yet another country. We will not miss you. I know that you will probably attack me and call me names just like you did Mr. Goude but the truth is that I do not "hate" anyone and I am not prejudiced. I believe that our system does not need to be changed to give credibility to Homosexuality. What will you do next? Maybe state funded abortion? In God we trust removed from our currency? Take taxes out on Churches? The list goes on and on for the left wingers. Too bad. This is a Christian based country and it will remain that way. If you dont like it, LEAVE.

Posted by LOL on 8/24/2008

Seriously, I know what bigotry is. I don't use that term on someone simply because I don't agree with them. Don't you think the citizens of Georgetown deserve to hear both sides of an issue without the name calling? Do you really believe this town has citizens who would do the things you mentioned? There is no bigotry in what I have written. You act as if I am immune to attacks. You have demonstrated in your words you are capable of hurt speech. Your attempt to associate those who disagree with you with the KKK and the radical extremists is very telling. I take offense with your remarks and am taken aback by them. The writing on the wall is this: no matter what the majority believes in or desires, a few liberal powerful judges will overide thier rights as voting citizens. Do I think it is the end of the world when two people of the same sex are allowed to engage in the long held lawful tradition of marriage. No! But I do see this as an erosion an encroachment upon our rights as a society. As I have said over and over, change the law or live by it. The majority rules. I didn't say that was always the right result. But the result must be honored if we will sustain as a nation of laws. If a few men speak for us we no longer have a democracy. I'm sorry people don't agree with God. That doesn't mean they can change what He has said. If you don't believe in Him....fine. But don't disrespect others that do. I don't think anyone who has ever read anything I have ever written would conclude I am capable of doing anything you accused me of. I am sorry if you got that impression from my comments.

Posted by Michael Goude on 8/23/2008

Michael Goude for President!!!!!!

Posted by Yeah!!! on 8/23/2008

hey mike....funny you should call Barack's former pastor a bigot...check the definition of bigot from websters.... Main Entry: big·ot Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot Date: 1660 : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance I think reading from reading your posts we can see how much you and Obama's pastor have in common. I wonder....what exactly does the writing on the wall say? What horrible things are we in for if we allow two guys to get married? Will the world end?...you should be happy about that, you are apparently going to heaven. As far as the cloud of anonymity....i'm not posting my name because i don't need the "God Hates Fags" people camped outside of my office. I'm sure you guys have some funerals to do that in front of and i don't want to take up any of your time.

Posted by seriously on 8/22/2008

Mr/Ms Seriously, You are the one missing the point. If anyone comes on here saying they think same sex marriage is ok with them, though I don't agree with them,I don't have a problem with that. That is thier right under the Constitution. I don't comment unless they intentionally mislead the reader by not stating all the facts. It is a fact a marriage in South Carolina is only legally recognized as a union between one man and one woman. If same sex partners are legally wed in Massachusetts and desire residence here, our laws will not recognize the union. We are a representative republic. We elect legislators to legislate and we pay law enforcement to enforce the laws on the books. Until South Carolina has a majority of its citizens to vote in new legislation, the legislation on the books should be adhered to. We did not vote for the legislators or the legislation in Massachusetts or California on same sex marriage. Therefore we don't want it shoved down out throats by some liberal judges on the bench as they did in Roe v Wade. An athiest has the same voting privileges and freedom of speech rights as I do. I believe secular humanism could be defined as a religion. Those who aspire to that set of principles also have the same voting privileges and freedom of speech rights that I have. If they want the laws changed they should run for office and thier constituency should support them. They don't because they know they don't have the numbers. One day they may. Until then, they do themselves great harm by attacking the majority. Your condescension is a prime example (your little rant about denominations, top 100 sins,and the Biblical account of Noah's ark). Once they find they can't win by elitism and intimidation, they look for other ways to get the result they want. This presidential campaign is a good example. The democrats lost the 2004 election by offering an elitist who proudly promised to never pray before he made a decision in the national interest of this nation. They associated Bush with what they labeled as the religious far right. They found out evangelicals vote and vote they did. They realized thier error and tried to bring Christianity front and center in this election. The problem is their practices don't line up with what they preach. Example: Barack Obama sought mentorship for 20 years under a bigoted hate monger pastor then expected us to believe he never knew that existed in the man. In a recent forum he talked about caring about the "least of these" while he has a voting record against legislation that secured medical attention to an infant survivor of abortion. They act as if Christians don't have the intellectual ability to comprehend and reason. I submit to you this very debate we are having now is because Christians like myself see the writing on the wall. I am a passionate debater. I do not hide my religious views nor my political inclinations behind a cloud of anonymity. If you check the archives of this paper's editorials under my name, you will find rebuttals addressing these same issues. I don't go around looking for a fight but I will not run from one either. I will not stand idly by and allow my relgious beliefs nor my political party to be maligned. In closing, if you want to gamble your eternal destination on the premise that the Bible is a book of fables go ahead, but I can point you to godly theologians who once unsuccessfully sought to prove the same thing. And for your information, it rained 40 days and 40 nights. Noah and his family,seven each of every clean animal, seven each of the birds of the air,and two of every unclean animal male and female, remained in the ark for 150 days. Genesis 7:2,3,23,24. Peace? No God No Peace....... KNOW GOD KNOW PEACE

Posted by Michael Goude on 8/22/2008

michael...the main point i think that you are missing is the fact that just because you think, believe or live by a set of standards or religion...in no way, in america at least, means that anyone else does. You have the right pursue happiness as you see fit. So do gay people, so do african americans, caucasions, asians, people with disabilities, people that practice different religions, so on and so forth. What you are trying to say to us is that everyone should believe you and your religion and follow those rules?....Ok...we got it. Do you think that's going to happen?...no....why?...Because we live in a free society called the United States of America. We have that choice. If it wasn't for choice and the birth of the US constitution you wouldn't even be able to worship as you do, in whatever branch of Christianity as you do. Which brings me to another point...which branch has it right? Catholics? Methodist? Evangelicals? Baptist? You are going to have to narrow it down a little for me...because i believe they all probably interpret the bible a little differently. Should we still dance?..isn't that a sin in somebody's religion....How about drink alchohol?....Surely some religion covers that. I'm going to have to get my bible out and start going through it to find out what all the rules are. Or if you would be so inclined to list them out for everyone that would be great....while you're at it....let us know exactly which sins are worse than others so we can get together and fight them....Maybe like a top 100 or so....and if you could...please explain to me how it's possible for Noah to get two of every animal on the earth into a boat for 40 days and 40 nights. I've never really been able to get past that one......peace my friend!

Posted by seriously on 8/22/2008

Mr/Ms Coastal Observer fan, With all due respect, maybe the god you believe in isn't the author of Leviticus 18:22, 1Kings 18:24, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:24,26,27. Maybe the god you believe in doesn't see homsexuality as sinful. Maybe the god you believe in didn't destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of this very sin. Maybe the god you believe in didn't send the two angels there that were sought out for the sex acts you so shamelessly describe in your comments. The Bible mentions 19 false gods. Maybe your god of the Bible is one of these. I don't know. If not, you might want to better aquaint yourself with the God of Psalm 7:11. I offer for your reading Romans 1:18-23. This may or may not be a reference to you. Only you and God know that. You and many others make a big mistake trying to make the love of God an argument for acceptance of this lifestyle. The Bible speaks more of God's justice than it does of God's love. Christians make a bigger mistake by not leaving the judgement of these sinful practices to God. With that said we are commanded to contend for the faith as stated in Jude 3. Jude 4 qualifies those contentions. I condemn no one but I would be amiss not to warn of the dangers of misleading people into thinking God's justice is negotiable, 2nd Corinthians 1:6-10. The Bible is clear, very clear. Some say because this subject is only addressed in a few scriptures God isn't as concerned as some may think. The language is very strong. Most intersections that give access to dangerous highways only have only one stop sign. Disregarding that stop sign can have life threatening consequences. Some say Jesus had no opinion one way or the other concerning homosexuality. He was there as the decree of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was issued. His definition for marriage is clearly defined in Mark 10:5-9. Homosexuality has become an issue for opportunists to try and disprove or weaken God's word. The arguments are: it was written by men, it was written for a different age and culture. Go ahead and make whatever argument you wish. Go ahead and live whatever lifestyle you wish. But don't think for a moment misrepresenting God or His Word will go unchallenged. This also goes for those who say "Lord, Lord.....", Matthew 7:21-23. With all this said,the foot of the cross is level ground. It takes no more grace to save one repentant sinner than it does to save another. The key word is repentance. In order to repent you must first admit the sin, Romans 10:9,10. Ignorance is bliss. Paul said he would not have us to be ignorant. 2nd Corinthians 2:11

Posted by Michael Goude on 8/22/2008

Hey Callahan...I've read your thoughts a few times in the paper and everytime i say to myself,..."Man, I wish had those few minutes of my life back." So, I thought that I would give you something to read...I believe you will be able to relate....It is the goals and beliefs listed on the KKK website....I'm sure some of this will sound familiar. 1.We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality This is a Christian nation and the Bible condemns homosexual activity and the perversion of our society which it encourages. 2.Restoring individual freedom to Christian America. People should be allowed to hire who they want, live where they want and practice the Christian faith as they please. Likewise people should be able to sell to whom they want , rent to whom they want and socialize and conduct business with who they want. The government should not interfere with the everyday lives of white Christian Americans. 3. Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest. While we stress the need for a moral and Christian lifestyle, we applaud those women who choose to give life when faced with an unplanned pregnancy. Furthermore, we recognize a woman's right to self-defense. While occurances are rare, a woman should not be forced to carry a rapist's seed to fruition. 4. The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation. As James Madison, known as the "Chief Architect of the Constitution" stated; " We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves to control ourselves to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." http://www.kkk.bz/

Posted by seriously? on 8/22/2008

Hey Clownahan, glad to see you found some closed-minded bigots like yourself that are fans. I love when bigots use God as an excuse for their hate. The God I believe in doesn't hate. You are so ignorant. You can have anal or oral sex with a man or a woman. There have been homosexuals since the beginning of time. It's not a new thing. I can't believe the Times lets somebody so ignorant write in paper.

Posted by Coastal Observer fan on 8/21/2008

Is there a sicker, more twisted perv than calahan in SC?

Posted by Timmy on 8/21/2008

"GOD did not intend for there to be same sex of any kind therefore he did not create anyone like that." God did not intend for people to judge others. "Same sex" is not a choice. You are obviously not comfortable with who you are or you would not find it necessary to bash others for who they are. Homosexuality is not a choice. And no, I am not homosexual.

Posted by local on 8/21/2008

I agree with you Just Saying, as do the majority of Americans. The problem is that our elected officials try to capture the gay vote and dont care what the average American thinks. You want to know why? Because we still vote them in in spite of them extending gay rights and eroding our rights.

Posted by LOL on 8/20/2008

Mr. Callahan you are a SMART man. I wish there were more people in the world like you. Thanks for stating the facts! GOD did not intend for there to be same sex of any kind therefore he did not create anyone like that. Same sex anything is just a sick choice!!! Bring it on people I could care less that you are all going to start bashing me and calling me names but, that's okay!!! I have the right to shove it down your throat just as you do mine!!!

Posted by Just Saying on 8/20/2008